Saturday, October 30, 2010

21 Days of Thankful

Do you have a spirit of thankfulness? We as Americans tend to set aside one day of the year to remember things, people and ideals for which we are thankful. But we should have a spirit of being thankful all year long.

Those of us who have found healing through the Celebrate Recovery program know what it's like to be thankful...thankful for healing, thankful for grace, thankful for a new life in Christ that is free from our hurts, habits and hangups.

We got an idea from our friends at Vegas CR at Central that we want to invite all our fellow CR friends, their friends, their family members and the whole world to join us in doing.

For the next 21 days, send out a tweet or update your Facebook status to share something for which you are thankful. We're calling this the 21 Days of Thankful event. We pray that as you share, you will not only be blessed as you realize life's many blessings, but you will also bless others.

We also hope you will share this idea with others. You can share the link to this blog, or you can invite people to join the event on Facebook here:

Now, this idea was started on October 30 and was originally designed to end right before Thanksgiving. But don't let that stop you. If you start in the middle, keep going for your own 21 days!

We can't wait to hear all the things people are thankful for and how this spirit of thankfulness helps change lives.

For more information about Celebrate Recovery call Rodney at 479-659-3679 or

Thursday, October 28, 2010

Daddy....I'm Scared

Ever been in a situation where you feel overwhelmed and that this is not going to end well? Where we feel like maybe God has somehow abandoned us in our situation?
Several years ago I took my daughter on a roller coaster ride, her very first. She was so excited and even though I tried to talk her out of it several times she insisted to ride this gigantic roller coaster at Sea World.
She was all smiles when sitting in and buckling up. She was all smiles as we awaited our climb of the high coaster. The higher we got, however, the more concerned she looked. She began to lose a little color in her face as we continued our climb. As we neared the top of the climb and began to near the decent down the steep fall she was now very nervous and quite frightened by what was to come next. I looked over into her fear stricken eyes, leaned into her, held her hand and said as calmly as I could, “Daddy has you sweetie. You don’t need to be scared. I am here.” The next couple minutes of the ride were something to remember. She did not enjoy one moment of it. She was pretty much sick the rest of the day.:)
In Exodus 14:9 But the Egyptians pursued after them…..”
We see God was faithful to lead them away for King Pharaoh and they got all the way to the Red Sea where they saw the king had a change of heart about letting them go and went after them.
10 And when Pharaoh drew nigh, the children of Israel lifted up their eyes, and, behold, the Egyptians marched after them; and they were sore afraid: and the children of Israel cried out unto the LORD. 11 And they said unto Moses, Because there were no graves in Egypt, hast thou taken us away to die in the wilderness? wherefore hast thou dealt thus with us, to carry us forth out of Egypt?
In essence they were saying, God why did you bring us this far just to see us die? They really believed that He had abandoned them.
In their distress they even convinced themselves that it might be better to go back to the way they were, in slavery then to face the storm they were facing.
12 Is not this the word that we did tell thee in Egypt, saying, Let us alone, that we may serve the Egyptians? For it had been better for us to serve the Egyptians, than that we should die in the wilderness.
Wow! Really?! I mean do they really think it was so much better?! They were slaves and hungry. We must not romanticize about our past. When we move forward and deal with our hurts, yes it will be tough but don’t believe for a second that it will be better to go back to the way it was.
Sometimes when we climb the coaster it feels like we need to turn around but life doesn’t work that way. We are in the storm we are in but God is there with us.
And Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD, which he will show to you today: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen today, ye shall see them again no more forever. 14 The LORD shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace.

If God was faithful to bring you to this point, He will be faithful to take you thru it. When we face life’s trials and scary roller coaster moments we can feel confident that our Daddy, the Abba Father is reaching over and grabbing our hand saying, “Daddy has you, don’t be afraid. I am here” Remember, whatever you are facing, His perfect love casts out fear. Your heavenly Father has you in all situations.

Rodney Holmstrom
Celebrate Recovery
Fellowship Bible NW Arkansas

For more information about Celebrate Recovery contact Rodney at 479-659-3679 or

Monday, October 25, 2010

Peace: Absence of conflict?

I have been doing some reading recently for an upcoming teaching in the book of Philippians. Specifically Chapter 4:10-19. What a cool book!
I was struck by the thought and meditation of what it really means to have peace in ALL circumstances. I mean, isn’t that contrary to what the world tells us?
The only way we have joy and peace in our heart is if we have everything going right for us and things are going our way in all circumstances then we really have something to be happy about….right? That is what I grew up believing and understanding. I truly believed that the only way I can have peace in my life is to have no conflicts in my life.
So, I spent most of my life trying to avoid conflict as that only makes things bad and not fun to deal with. I believed that I could not possibly have peace if I was in the middle of a storm in my life. That is really a big lie that many of us grow up believing. So what do we do? We run from our problems and hide from them. We just as well ignore the problem, the strained relationship, the situation in our job etc, etc. We might as well act like it is not there and it will eventually go away. Wrong.
It has been said, we cannot make a problem go away by saying it is not there. That is so true. As I have grown in Christ I have embraced this idea of facing conflict more directly. Now, I still have my moments where in the flesh I want t to run and hide but as a whole I have grown much in this area.
I am finding that when I deal with my conflicts directly and swiftly, I am healthier as a man and can face the next conflict even easier.
I am learning that true peace is not the absence of conflict but rather the presence of Righteousness. That Righteousness being the person of Jesus Christ. I am learning that He is big enough for all my problems not just the ones I feel like I can’t handle.
Paul reminds us in Chapter 4 that if we will NOT leave Him out of the equation in all situations, He truly will replenish us. Verse 19 of the fourth chapter says “and my God shall supply all your need according to His riches in the glory by Christ Jesus.” Notice He did not say “want”.
When my tank gets empty; if I invite Him into my everyday life, good or bad, He restores me to health. I am learning that if I am doing things right, His eyes are on me. This has nothing to do with good or bad times.
True happiness and peace comes from a daily seeking of our Lord and Savior. That is why it is so critical to stay in His word. He is the only one that can give us the wisdom, strength and courage to face every day’s battles.
In order to keep that peace in our heart even in the bad times is to do as Paul says in verse 12, “I know how to be abased (humble), and I know how to abound, (to have plenty). Everywhere and in ALL things I have learned both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.”
Wow! Did you hear that? To be full and yet still be hungry. I need to fill up on His wisdom daily thru the reading of His word, mediation, and prayer. That is the very essence of the Beatitude Matthew 5:6 “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness.” To gorge and yet still be hungry for more.
How is your appetite these days? Are you filling up on the wrong things? When I physically eat junk food, I have no room for the nutritious food I need to keep moving the direction I need to. In the same way, I have to fill myself up on Him and continue that hunger for more in my walk.
Paul finish verse 13 with “I can do all things thru Christ who strengthens me”
Great word to hold in our hearts as we face today’s challenges. The next time you have a conflict, embrace it. Don’t hide from it. Face it head on in love, grace and mercy and you will grow thru that experience. He is big enough to pull you thru it. it is thru the conflicts that we grow so much.
True peace is the presence of righteousness in the midst of the conflict. Keep your eyes on Him and He will guide you thru it.

Rodney Holmstrom
Celebrate Recovery Ministry Leader.
Fellowship Bible Church NW Arkansas

For more information about Celebrate Recovery, contact Rodney at 479-659-3679 or

Monday, October 18, 2010

10 Lessons Learned From 25 Years of Ministry

This month I celebrate 25 years of full-time ministry. During this time I have been honored to serve as a university chaplain, to minister in people in 36 nations and in my current role to serve as Lead Pastor of Capital Life Church in Arlington, Virginia.

When I began in the ministry 25 years ago Ronald Reagan was beginning his second term as president, top entertainers were gathering together to sing, “We are the World” and "Back to the Future" was the highest-grossing film.

In the last 25 years I have witnessed the end of the Cold War and the beginning of a new kind of war that brought forth the worst attack on U. S. soil in our nation’s history.

I now have what few could have foreseen just 25 years ago: A GPS system in my car, a cell phone in my hand and a DVR in my living room. Our world has changed.

What I have learned is that the Psalmist knew what he was talking about when he said, “If the Lord delights in a man’s way he makes his steps firm.” The last 25 years have only reaffirmed the convictions that led me to commit my life full-time to serving God.

The following are 10 lessons I’ve learned in 25 years of ministry:

1. The goal is not to win a debate but to redeem the heart.

2. One’s public witness is only as authentic as one’s private integrity.

3. There is no greater source of wisdom than the Bible and no investment that yields greater returns than prayer.

4. Hate is only validated when one responds in like spirit.

5. Jesus should never be presented as less than he claimed to be: the way, the truth and the life.

6. One should live first and foremost so as to please a heavenly audience.

7. One’s legacy is found not in things that matter least but in people who matter most.

8. The generation into which I am born is my calling and it beckons me to be fully engaged.

9. When Jesus paused while dying on the cross to make certain his mother was cared for, he showed how to prioritize family amidst ministry.

10. Sermons can inspire but it is love in action that makes the most profound impact.

As I look to the next generation of ministers I am keenly aware that they will seek to touch a world that is increasingly distracted. Absolutes will be challenged as those who oppose Biblical precepts become more organized and vocal. Their strength will be in presenting not religion but a relationship with Jesus Christ.

To the generation of ministers who have served before me that includes Billy Graham, Bill Bright and others less well-known but equally faithful I owe a debt of gratitude. They heralded a gospel of love, maintained their integrity and loved their families well. They bequeath to others and me a legacy.

Rev. Bill Shuler is lead pastor at Capital Life Church in Arlington, Virginia. For more visit

Published October 15, 2010

Friday, October 15, 2010

Could It Be You?

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives." 1 John 1:9-10 (NIV)

I remember the day I realized I have Adam's Disease. It took me awhile to notice—in fact, most people with this debilitating condition don't ever recognize it. But the best doctor I know pointed out its symptoms, and though I hated to admit it, I've frequently displayed them.

Could it possibly affect you as well?

Adam's Disease is an insidious condition that interferes with the patient's ability to grow. It does this by preventing the patient from admitting and taking responsibility for their sin. Take a look at the first confirmed case:

Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. But the LORD God called to the man, "Where are you?"

He answered, "I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid."

And he said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?"

The man said, "The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it." (Genesis 3:8-12, NIV)

What we have here is a textbook case of acknowledgement-avoidance and blame-shifting. Classic traits of Adam's Disease.

Adam hid because he sinned. He did the very thing God personally commanded him not to, and he knew it. He ate the fruit. He held it to his mouth, bit in, chewed, felt the juice dripping from his chin—and then his eyes were opened. Opened to what he had done, and opened to how miserable it feels to disconnect from God.

Trying to change the subject and avoid talking about his sin, Adam said he was hiding because he was naked. Nakedness ... a lesser offense. A problem, not a sin. A state that wasn't really his fault. After all, he didn't make himself naked. God did.

And that's where the second most prominent feature of Adam's Disease kicks in: blame-shifting. After trying to minimize the severity of their sin, the patient enters a frenzied state of denial and begins casting blame. He searches for a scapegoat. God will do; other people work even better, particularly those who are not without sin either. So the patient shfits attention away from themself by leveling accusations (no matter how old) on others.

If those of us suffering from Adam's Disease are skilled orators or experienced arguers, these tactics often work for us. The problem is, w e walk away from the confrontation feeling victorious rather than convicted. We actually talk ourselves into feeling self-righteous after sinning.

However, without conviction there is no repentance. Without repentance, there is no grace to change. Without change, there is no growth. Only future sins to be committed, glossed over, denied and forgotten. And in the process we don't realize how miserable we truly are – how sick our souls become.

The doctor that pointed all this out to me, the Great Physician, said He could heal me of this disease if I would come to Him with a humble heart, confess and be cleansed. He showed me that confessing my sin rather than concealing it would set me free. And He showed me it will not hurt to say, "I'm sorry."

For those outside the faith, Adam's Disease is fatal. For followers of Christ, it is completely curable. So, could it be you? Could you suffer with this tendency too? My best girlfriend advice - make an appointment w ith your Great Physician for a check-up today.

Dear Lord, today I am willing to say that I am a sinner in so many ways. And I don't like to admit responsibility for my poor choices and harmful actions. Please cleanse me of all unrighteousness and empower me to live humbly in Your grace. In Jesus' Name, Amen.

Related Resources:
If this devotion struck a chord with you, you'll want to read chapter 10 – "Crave a Clear Conscious More than Clear Skin" – in Rachel's new book It's No Secret: Revealing Divine Truths Every Woman Should Know

We were made to live free from Adam's Disease! Visit Rachel's blog today to talk about it. She is also giving away a copy of her book It's No Secret: Revealing Divine Truths Every Woman Should Know.
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Application Steps:
Quiet yourself in prayer and ask the Holy Spirit to search your heart and show you any sin problems you need to confess. Then enjoy the spiritual vitality that you'll experience afterwards!
How willing am I to admit my mistakes? To God? To my boss? To my spouse? To my friends?

Do I shift blame as a knee-jerk reaction?

Do I resist saying , "I'm sorry"?

Power Verses:
James 4:6b, "God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble." (NIV)

© 2010 by Rachel Olsen. All rights reserved.
15 Oct 2010
Rachel Olsen

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Witness His Majesty

Don’t forget to stop by our newcomer tables to welcome our guests and make them feel special.

I want to share some thoughts with you after reading some Max Lucado “God came near” this week.

"The financial aid office says “no”, the doctor says, “pregnant” or “it’s cancer”
The boss says, “transfer” the test grade reads “F”, the auto mechanic says, “totaled” the insurance agent says, “expired”

Change always brings fear before it brings faith. We always assume the worst before we look for the best. God interrupts our lives with something we’ve never seen, and rather than praise, we panic! We interpret the presence of a problem as the absence of God and scoot! Isn’t it a good thing the Shepherds lingered? “Then an angel of the Lord stood before them. The glory of the Lord was shining around them, and they became very frightened.”

Had the shepherd not lingered they might have missed the next verse. “Today your Savior was born in a town of David. He is Christ, the Lord.”

I am so honored to be amongst some of the most incredible shepherds in this ministry called CR. Together we get to be eyewitness of His majesty. Together we get to linger and see what God is going to do next! Isn’t that cool?!

It has been said that Christianity, in its purest form, is nothing more than seeing Jesus. Christian Service, in its purest form, is nothing more than imitating him who we see. To see His Majesty and to imitate Him, that is the sum of Christianity.

Thanks for being you my friends and walking along side with me in this incredible ministry. Jesus is doing some amazing things!

Heavenly Father, thank You that we get to see Your Majesty up front and close. You are so good and we thank You for what You are doing in our life right now as we speak. Help us to linger so that we do not miss out on the next verse of our life. May we imitate You tonight Father. We ask for Your blessing over this night. In Jesus Name, AMEN

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Thursday, October 14, 2010

Nutter Butter Anyone?

In the last year I found out that I have hypoglycemia and had strict orders from my doctor to change my diet. In meeting with a nutritionist, I was told that I would have to reduce my portion intake in a meal setting. I would also have to change my diet to more vegetables and less sweets. Yikes! That is the last thing I wanted to hear as I so love sweets. (Nutter Butters to be precise. )

I told my nutritionist that it was going to be pretty tough for me to do this because of my sweet tooth. She then said something to me that has stuck with me since. She said, “Rodney, your body will crave what it eats.” I thought she was crazy, but would you believe as I changed my eating habits, ate more vegetables and more healthy foods, my body did just that. It wanted more healthy things to digest. I was in fact craving what I ate.

I think about that with my recovery and how my mind is the exact same way. What I eat mentally and take into my brain, it in turn craves that very thing more and more.
We have people in our Church that run into this issue with their life. We may have spent a life time craving and taking in the wrong things. Filling our life with lies instead of truth, addictions and even dealing with hang-ups with unhealthy emotional coping skills. In turn we find our self in misery and full of hopelessness.

Fortunately we have a tool to help our Church learn the process of changing our actions. Celebrate Recovery is a fantastic tool to equip our pastors and non staff volunteers on how to handle life issues within our Church. If we want to change the way we act, we have to change the way we feel. The only way we change the way we feel is to change the way we think. Celebrate Recovery is one of the most practical ways to help our church body start this process of rewiring our mind, submitting our life to God and then work thru the process to remove the character defects that lead us to poor choices and hopelessness. This process called Celebrate Recovery teaches us to replace those things with truth and a life of hope and freedom from whatever we are dealing with, hurts, habits or hang-ups.

Stay in the Word this week and you will begin seeing your cravings change for the positive. Stay faithful to your group meeting and the people God has blessed you with as well. You are not in this alone.
We do crave what we eat spiritually and physically.

October 22nd at 6:00pm at Fellowship Bible we are celebrating 7 years of life change here. This will be a great night to bring someone to hear many mini testimonies from satisfied customers. Steak and Chicken this night. Who will you invite?

Time to go get me a Nutter Butter. Just kidding. :)


For more information about Celebrate Recovery call Rodney at 479-659-3679 or

Tuesday, October 12, 2010

People just don’t stumble into recovery groups

People just don’t stumble into recovery groups. They are usually there because of some kind of crisis that their addiction has created. Because of the intensity of their problem and the emotional instability involved the newcomer is always the most important person in the room. We as a group have the opportunity to intervene in this person’s life. We must not be involved in the drama of our own lives or the life of the group to the degree that we overlook the newcomers needs. There is no script to follow. The correct action is to be led by the Holy Spirit

As members of Christ’s body and as group members we should always be in a "state" of carrying His message. We keep in mind that the newcomer in our group is a person with real needs. We adjust the group to meet this persons needs. It’s not about the “life” of the group. Even though the life of the group is important it’s more about the life of the person. If our newcomer is born again it’s just about us hooking this person up to what they already have but have lost. That is an attachment to Christ within.

Hurting Christians need to become reacquainted with the facts. The facts are that the old person that they were is dead and a new creation exists within them. It is also a time to realize that this is made possible by what Christ has done for them at the cross and all that is needed is an acceptance of the facts. This is the truth that breaks addiction and sin in ones life. Through the cross comes life and a way that can be lived by. We are buried and raised with Christ. Pointing this out to the newcomer through our own personal testimonies and talks will make the difference.

We as a group must have a single message. The message is that we can not save ourselves. Freedom comes from Christ alone and his method of providing it. Backslidden Christians struggle with addiction and sin because the have forgotten who they are. So in a very real way we are dealing with complacency. Complacency is an enemy to the group and to the individuals who attend our groups. We must also guard against complacency within ourselves.

We as "oldtimers" share that we can not free ourselves from addiction by focusing on the addiction. We share that we can't fix the damage we have done by attepmting to fix it all on our own. Our confession is that it takes somebody way bigger and much stronger than us to do this. As we trust in the lord and the powers He destroyed at the cross our areas of concern line up with the spirit of God. Addictions are broken and relationships are healed.

by John Madden on Monday, October 11, 2010 at 7:35pm
Thanks for the good word John.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010

Why It's Really Worth Telling Your Secrets

This is a great blog on this topic from ANN VOSKAMP.

For information about a life changing ministry that keeps a safe place in telling your secrets "so that" you may be healed" Contact Rodney at Celebrate Recovery at 479-659-3679 or

Wednesday, October 6, 2010

It's A Kingdom Thing Baby

So I sat there last Friday night and as I listen to David do the announcement about the 7th Anniversary Event I was it full force in the face with something by the Spirit of God that was then reinforced by the worship led by Rodney that followed and then again by Angela’s testimony that followed that.

Celebrate Recovery is celebrating 7 years of life change at FBC and we are asking folks to look outside our walls and invite someone to experience this great ministry thru this exciting celebration.

It really caught me Friday night how much CR is a Kingdom thing. It is not a Saddleback thing, it is not a Rick Warren or John Baker thing, it is not a Fellowship thing, it IS a Kingdom thing, it IS a Jesus thing. It is not about a single church or church leader or about a denomination even. It IS about the Bridegroom and His love for His bride though, His church.

That being the case, I have not been able to shake the thought that this 7th Anniversary Celebration is bigger than we think. It is not about Fellowship having CR for the last 7 years, while that is such a cool thing. This celebration needs to be about a Kingdom thing. It needs to be about what the King has done and what the King wants to do. CR works around the country, or even for that matter around the world now not because of anything except that it is a Kingdom thing.

I was talking with a friend of mine Saturday night who was telling me that he has another friend that he was surprised to find out that had been attending CR for the last several months, surprised because he said his friend was not really into church. I told my friend, well neither is CR, CR is not about church it is about the Kingdom of God, it is about Jesus binding up the broken hearted, it is about Jesus setting captive hearts free, it is about Jesus restoring lives that have been destroyed by sin and bad choices – it has nothing to do with church – it has everything to do with the Kingdom, it has everything to do with Jesus.

Just today Kim and I had the opportunity to share the same thoughts with a denominational leader who very well may cancel his plans so that he can join us on Oct 22nd. I loved what he said as we left, “it is not about our height, but it is about our depth!” Oh!! Yes!! Now that is a recovery thought, that is a Kingdom thought – if I ever heard one!! Jesus could care less to what height I rise too, but He is oh so concern with the depth of my character – that is recovery. So much so that He will risk crashing my world apart to restore my character to what it should be – that is a recovery thing; that is a Kingdom thing!
I believe that we are at a watershed moment in the Kingdom and we dare not grab it for ourselves, the moment we do it will be lost from us. CR is what it is because the King has chosen to work through His Spirit as He does, it is not our doing. It is not our anointing. It is not even our calling. It IS His Kingdom, it is His work, remember if God could speak through a donkey……enough said.

As we celebrate the last 7 years we need to be sure that we keep in mind that It's A Kingdom Thing Baby!! Lest we let pride over take us

I have not been able to get Isaiah 61 out of my mind when it comes to what it is the King wants to do in His Kingdom

1-7 The Spirit of God, the Master, is on me because God anointed me.
He sent me to preach good news to the poor,
heal the heartbroken,
Announce freedom to all captives,
pardon all prisoners.
God sent me to announce the year of his grace—
a celebration of God's destruction of our enemies—
and to comfort all who mourn,
To care for the needs of all who mourn in Zion,
give them bouquets of roses instead of ashes,
Messages of joy instead of news of doom,
a praising heart instead of a languid spirit.
Rename them "Oaks of Righteousness"
planted by God to display his glory.
They'll rebuild the old ruins,
raise a new city out of the wreckage.
They'll start over on the ruined cities,
take the rubble left behind and make it new.
You'll hire outsiders to herd your flocks
and foreigners to work your fields,
But you'll have the title "Priests of God,"
honored as ministers of our God.
You'll feast on the bounty of nations,
you'll bask in their glory.
Because you got a double dose of trouble
and more than your share of contempt,
Your inheritance in the land will be doubled
and your joy go on forever.
8-9"Because I, God, love fair dealing
and hate thievery and crime,
I'll pay your wages on time and in full,
and establish my eternal covenant with you.
Your descendants will become well-known all over.
Your children in foreign countries
Will be recognized at once
as the people I have blessed."
10-11I will sing for joy in God,
explode in praise from deep in my soul!
He dressed me up in a suit of salvation,
he outfitted me in a robe of righteousness,
As a bridegroom who puts on a tuxedo
and a bride a jeweled tiara.
For as the earth bursts with spring wildflowers,
and as a garden cascades with blossoms,
So the Master, God, brings righteousness into full bloom
and puts praise on display before the nations."

God, a most fierce warrior, is at my side.
Those who are after me will be sent sprawling—
Slapstick buffoons falling all over themselves,
a spectacle of humiliation no one will ever forget.
Jeremiah 20:11 (The Message)

Who will you invite to experience this Kingdom ministry on October 22nd?

Tim K, Encourager Coach, Fellowship Bible CR NW Arkansas.
For more information about CR or one closer to you in your area, contact Rodney at 479-659-3679 or